THE BETRAYAL RECOVERY TRANSFORMATION PODCAST
With Betrayal Recovery Coaches
Kris Rocha & Jenn Howie
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"Amazing info and guests! Love these ladies and the advice they give through their amazing guests. So much insight here into not only betrayal trauma, but trauma and tools to a better life and understanding humans and relationships in general! Great job, thanks for providing this important resource."
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"Insightful and inspiring. Jenn and Kris have given us a gift in creating this podcast. They are relatable and so very vulnerable as they share their personal experiences of betrayal. Thank you, Kris and Jenn!"
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"Witnessing such a raw display of trauma really hits home. Confrontation and being a people-pleaser are struggles many of us can relate to. As an anatomy and physiology expert, it's surprising how I never realized this unique form of coping. Let's hold space for each other and continue to learn and grow together."
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FEATURED EPISODES
ep01A BETRAYAL SURVIVAL GUIDE
Whether you're just starting on this path or need a reminder along the way, this episode acts as a survival guide to help you navigate the trauma you're experiencing and help you find your way to healing quickly.
Recent Episodes
Hope and healing take center stage in this conversation with Clinton and Nikki Mitchell as they share their story of betrayal, disclosure, and the redemptive work God has done in their marriage. After more than 31 years together and decades in ministry, what appeared stable on the outside was hiding deep pain and long-held secrets. Their willingness to share openly offers hope to couples walking through the devastation of betrayal and the long road of restoration.
In this deeply insightful episode, we are joined by Darrell Brazell, pastor of New Hope Fellowship and Director of New Hope Recovery Ministries, for an important conversation around Dr. Omar Minwallaโs concept of The Secret Sexual Basement. Together, we explore how hidden sexual behaviors, deception, and compartmentalized thinking create profound relational harm and contribute to betrayal trauma. Darrell brings decades of experience working with men, couples, and recovery communities, helping us better understand what is happening beneath the surface and what true healing requires.
In this episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, we sit down with author, speaker, and betrayal-recovery coach Vicki Tiede to discuss the complex and often isolating experience of discovering a spouseโs same-sex attraction. With both professional insight and compassion, Vicki brings clarity to a topic that is frequently misunderstood and emotionally overwhelming for many women.
Healing after betrayal is hard enoughโbut what happens when youโre doing the work alone? In this honest and hope-filled conversation, we sit down with Lyschel Burket, founder of Hope Redefined Ministries, to explore the realities of one-sided healing.
Ep. 30 BRT Podcast w/Sam Black
โBehavior modification doesn't work. Healing comes from transformation, not control.โ
Ep. 26 BRT Podcast w/Dr. Laura Sanger
โWhen we rest, we are also warring because we are destroying the works of the enemy.โ
All Episodes
Hope and healing take center stage in this conversation with Clinton and Nikki Mitchell as they share their story of betrayal, disclosure, and the redemptive work God has done in their marriage. After more than 31 years together and decades in ministry, what appeared stable on the outside was hiding deep pain and long-held secrets. Their willingness to share openly offers hope to couples walking through the devastation of betrayal and the long road of restoration.
In this deeply insightful episode, we are joined by Darrell Brazell, pastor of New Hope Fellowship and Director of New Hope Recovery Ministries, for an important conversation around Dr. Omar Minwallaโs concept of The Secret Sexual Basement. Together, we explore how hidden sexual behaviors, deception, and compartmentalized thinking create profound relational harm and contribute to betrayal trauma. Darrell brings decades of experience working with men, couples, and recovery communities, helping us better understand what is happening beneath the surface and what true healing requires.
In this episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, we sit down with author, speaker, and betrayal-recovery coach Vicki Tiede to discuss the complex and often isolating experience of discovering a spouseโs same-sex attraction. With both professional insight and compassion, Vicki brings clarity to a topic that is frequently misunderstood and emotionally overwhelming for many women.
Healing after betrayal is hard enoughโbut what happens when youโre doing the work alone? In this honest and hope-filled conversation, we sit down with Lyschel Burket, founder of Hope Redefined Ministries, to explore the realities of one-sided healing.
Healing after betrayal is not about rushing forward or "getting over itโโitโs about courageously reclaiming yourself, one brave step at a time. In this episode, we welcome back licensed professional counselor, coach, and author Tammy Gustafson for a powerful conversation about what it truly means to move from brokenness to bravery after intimate betrayal.
Forgiveness is one of the most misunderstood and emotionally loaded concepts in betrayal recovery. In this episode, Kris sits down with Andrew Arthur, founder of Genesis Christian Mediation, to unpack what forgiveness really meansโand what it does not meanโafter deep relational betrayal.
Divorce after betrayal trauma can feel confusing, isolating, and even more painful than staying. In this conversation, Rae Emmerson from Healing Talks Back joins the podcast to explore why healing after a terminally wounded relationship is uniquely complexโand why the end of a relationship does not automatically bring relief.
Rebuilding safety and intimacy after betrayal begins with understanding how our attachment styles shape the way we connectโand disconnectโwith others. In this eye-opening conversation, Dr. Jake Porter, Founder and President of Daring Ventures, returns to the podcast to unpack how attachment wounds form, why they matter in recovery, and how couples can move from fear and self-protection toward trust and closeness.
A pastor, author, counselor, and global leader, Paul draws from his extensive background in psychology and theology to unpack the ways distorted beliefs about God can keep us trapped in emotional pain and confusion.
In this conversation, Stacey joins Kris and Jenn to explore how spiritual abuse can take root within faith communitiesโoften cloaked in tradition or twisted theologyโand how women can move from confusion and pain toward clarity, courage, and freedom.
Gigi Hopkins, Professional Certified Coach (PCC) and Director of Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries, joins us for a candid conversation about how healing from betrayal can produce unexpected gifts.
In this special episode, weโre joined by Dr. Jake Porter, renowned relational trauma expert, coach, and founder of Daring Ventures. Known for his groundbreaking work helping individuals and couples heal from betrayal and rebuild trust, Jake brings deep insight and compassion to the recovery journey.
How much truth is too much truth? What if you feel ready for disclosure, but your partner doesn't? Whatโs the actual goal of a therapeutic disclosureโand how do you know when youโre ready? How much truth is too much truth? What if you feel ready for disclosure, but your partner doesn't? Whatโs the actual goal of a therapeutic disclosureโand how do you know when youโre ready?
This week on The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, weโre joined by Amy Elysseโvocal coach, faith-filled encourager, and a radiant light in her community. Amy opens up about her own betrayal story and shares how the human voice, primarily through singing, can become a powerful tool for healing. Whether youโre musically inclined or simply longing to express yourself more fully, Amy brings warmth, insight, and practical wisdom to the conversation. And she's created a free recording to guide you through a healing exercise.
Pornography addiction is one of the most misunderstood struggles in the church today, often shrouded in shame and secrecy. Sam Black, Director of Recovery Education at Covenant Eyes and author of The Healing Church: What Churches Get Wrong About Pornography and How to Fix It, joins us to share how real freedom comes through accountability, grace, and informed support. Drawing from his journalism background and over 70 interviews with pastors, counselors, and people in recovery, Sam offers practical wisdom for churches, couples, and individuals navigating the path to healing.
Dr. Anthony Walker joins us to share how he helps men navigate the healing process after betrayal. He provides insights from Help Her Heal, a workbook by Carol Jergensen Sheets, and discusses how men can develop emotional attunement, overcome resistance, and strengthen their relationships.
In this episode, we welcome Hope Ray, a Licensed Professional Counselor who coined Betrayal Violence. Hope is a leader in the field of betrayal trauma, offering deep insights into the effects of secrecy, deception, and relational power imbalances. She is also the creator of Complex Partner Trauma magazine, available on Amazon, which provides resources and support for betrayed partners.
We had the privilege of sitting down with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith to discuss the transformative power of the Intimacy Pyramid. With their personal story of betrayal, addiction, and healing as the backdrop, the Raabsmiths shared actionable insights and hope for couples looking to rebuild trust, connection, and relational intimacy.
Weโre excited to welcome Dr. Laura Sanger back to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! Dr. Sangerโs first episode remains the top fan favorite, and we are thrilled to have her return with another timely and profound messageโthis time focusing on rest.
With a personal recovery journey from betrayal and "stinkin' thinkin'," Stacey uses her lived experience and professional expertise to guide betrayed partners and those suffering from addiction toward healing. She is certified in EMDR therapy and specializes in helping people overcome attachment wounds and shame. Stacey is passionate about creating a healing partnership with her clients and believes in the transformative power of therapy.
In this episode, we welcome
Diane Schnickels, founder of Living Waters of Hope
and a
dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic abuse
. Diane brings her extensive experience and compassionate approach to discuss when sex addiction crosses the line into abuse. She has developed crucial resources like the Oasis Bible Study and the Hope Giver Essentials training program, empowering women to heal and reclaim their lives. Today, Diane shares her insights on recognizing the signs of abuse related to sex addiction and provides valuable guidance on supporting those affected.
In this episode, we welcome
Diane Schnickels, founder of Living Waters of Hope
and a
dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic abuse
. Diane brings her extensive experience and compassionate approach to discuss when sex addiction crosses the line into abuse. She has developed crucial resources like the Oasis Bible Study and the Hope Giver Essentials training program, empowering women to heal and reclaim their lives. Today, Diane shares her insights on recognizing the signs of abuse related to sex addiction and provides valuable guidance on supporting those affected.
In this episode, we welcome
Diane Schnickels, founder of Living Waters of Hope
and a
dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic abuse
. Diane brings her extensive experience and compassionate approach to discuss when sex addiction crosses the line into abuse. She has developed crucial resources like the Oasis Bible Study and the Hope Giver Essentials training program, empowering women to heal and reclaim their lives. Today, Diane shares her insights on recognizing the signs of abuse related to sex addiction and provides valuable guidance on supporting those affected.
In this episode, Kris, Jenn, and Nick share a powerful message for pastors and clergy on effectively supporting women going through betrayal trauma. Using the analogy of how a paramedic would treat a severe wound, they provide six key steps for clergy and support personnel to follow.
In this milestone episode, we dive deep into the topic of trauma with Debby Flanagan. Debby shares her profound knowledge of trauma, how it affects our brain and body, and its impacts on our relationships. She also discusses common signs and symptoms of trauma, how to recognize it within ourselves, practical strategies for recovery, and ways to support someone who is dealing with trauma.
Today, we welcome back Tammy Gustafson, a renowned betrayal trauma coach, therapist, writer, and speaker. Tammy is here to delve deeper into her "Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal," sharing her expert insights and personal experiences. This episode is packed with valuable information, laughter, and heartfelt moments.
Dr. Jill Manning shares her expertise on a topic she's passionate about ... the impact of snooping, especially in the context of betrayal trauma. Get your notebooks ready, friends. This episode is packed with excellent information, tools, and tips.
Adrienne Friesen is naturally gifted at supporting and comforting friends during difficult and traumatic times in their lives. Today, she shares her wisdom and practical advice on how to be a steadfast friend during difficult times.
Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this special Story Spotlight episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, they are honored to feature author and speaker Tess Scott, who shares her inspiring journey of overcoming shame and replacing it with forgiveness and stepping into God's purpose for her life.
Grab a coffee or your favorite cup of tea and curl up with hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this enlightening episode inspired by Dr. Jill Manning's thought-provoking Instagram post on Secondary Trauma. This conversation is a balance between depth and lightness as they explore Dr. Manning's list of secondary trauma examples.